with all due respect to werdum, he done the unthinkable submitting Fedor but i think everyone is getting far too carried away in ranking him 1st,2nd even 3rd in the heavyweight class. Overeem is on a crushing streak, his takedown defence is sturdy and lets not forget it was fedor who made the mistake by following werdum to the ground in such a rash manner. he over estimated his punch. overeem by 1st round tko via strikes
Only sub's I see Werdum catching Reem with r Armbar or RNC but I think Reem will most likely power out of other subs like Triangle's, Kimura's etc...dont see this fight going like there first fight at all
He caught Fedor. I don't see Overeem getting caught judging by his last few fights. To take that a step further, I don't see Fedor getting caught again if he ever faces Werdum again.
I'd hardly call Rogers or Duffee cans! And he absolutely annihilated them and now they're just cans...yeah! Reminds of how everyone who Bisping beats is just a can AFTER he wins although before the fight they're set to "Hendo his ass!" The fact is Overreem's improved dramatically since he was barely out of high school facing the likes of Chuck Liddel. Beating guys like Vitor, Vovchanchyn and Kharitonov in Pride!! But they were all cans, yeah? Then he improves his striking so much that he wins the K1 Grand Prix and batters Duffee in 19 seconds 3 weeks later. And he's improved his grappling on top of that. Taking all these things into consideration I'd say the only people who'd have a good chance of beating him would be Fedor, Velasquez, Maybe Dos, Carwin and no Lesnar couldn't handle him.
I wouldnt include JDS as having much of a chance IMO. Of all them mentioned though, the only probable fight we will see is Overeem - Fedor. I pray for this fight as it is probably the 2 best HWs on the planet, if not 2 of the top 3.
Honestly I don't blame a fighter if he does not want to fight Overeem. Its probably the most dangerous thing you could do. Shane Carwin too. But props to anyone who actually steps up and fights em.
Seems like Werdum's trying to redeem himself from saying he wouldn't have chosen to fight Overeem. Everyone started saying he was scared as a result of it, and he probably felt compelled to come back with a threat, which now brings the pressure. He played headgames with himself lol.
I watched comments exactly like this before the Fedor v. Werdum fight, everyone made Werdum seem like he was outta of his league and look what happened, I think overeem with probably end up with the win but after werdums last win you cant just count him out
One thing is shore if the fight goes to the second round Overeem gona gas out just like other big muscle fighter like Lesnar and Carwin and Werdum will submit him
Lesner showed signs of gassing in the Couture fight. If he ever has to fight another man's fight for more that two rounds I think it is safe to say he will gas.
A lot of people are counting Werdum out and I just can't understand why. He submitted Fedor. He has already beaten Overeem (even if it was in 2006). He has TKO wins against Brandon Vera and Gonzaga. He has a win over top ten HW Big Foot Silva. The guy is not an easy fight. It seems like people count him out just because he got KOd by JDS and Overeem has been looking good lately.
Sorry Werdum, I dont think anyone can grab Overeems arms... its like trying to bear hug a tank to death... aint happnin. But what you can do to take out the tank, is use some precise guided missiles, which Fedor happens to have, one on each his fists :D
i agree with t666, even after werdum won he still admitted fedor was the best in the world because he knew he couldn't pull that same shit on fedor again. so when its probably overeem vs fedor it will be the ultimate k1 champ vs the ultimate pride champ it will be the best heavyweight mma fight in the world so far, if its werdum vs fedor you also know you got the 2 best in the world because werdum just somehow outlasted/submitted overeem, either way its all good for fedor and i know he will win it and take back #1 HW in the world, lol @ dana calling his heavyweights baddest man on the planet after fedor wins this, or maybe overeem will win and dana will have problems signing him lol
Overeems got lots to prove beating two KO'd fighters and being K1 champ dosen't mean anything.Fedor fought Shiltt and beat him and Samy was 6 times K1 champ
Not when Fedor fought him. Winning K-1 is significant, because it shows that your striking is better than every other professional kickboxer in the world. When that fighter has an MMA game (like cro cop in '06), then it's especially relevant. Sounds to me like you're just hatin to be hatin.
Sammy is 3 years older than Fedor he was in his late 20's when they foght the diference is K1 was easyer than MMA for Shiltt . If Werdum laast for 2 or 3 rounds Overeem is dead meat is just gona be like Werdum vs Big Foot Silva
who is gonna last 2 or three rounds with that beast? werdum is a good fighter,great submissions but he gotta get reem to the ground first....not sure if has ko power for reem
Can you imagine though if Werdum manages to get the other arm (not in his face), in a submission, what an upset for the Heavyweight divisions everywhere wouid it be?
He would be remembered not only as the first guy who submitted Fedor but also the guy who is considerred to be the future of MMA heavyweights!
Yes I do leave in my own little world (put self sarcasm face here)
Werdum don't get much love from what I see, but he has beaten both Overeem and Fedor which is an accomplishment in itself. Agreed Overeem is a different beast now and Fedor just eventually got found out fighting people at their strengths and is regarded by many as far superior a HW to Werdum, but none the less he has beat them both.
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Not if hes unconscious.
Just for that Overeem is going to knock him out with that arm specifically.
with all due respect to werdum, he done the unthinkable submitting Fedor but i think everyone is getting far too carried away in ranking him 1st,2nd even 3rd in the heavyweight class. Overeem is on a crushing streak, his takedown defence is sturdy and lets not forget it was fedor who made the mistake by following werdum to the ground in such a rash manner. he over estimated his punch. overeem by 1st round tko via strikes
I wish he would of gave Fedor his immediate rematch but he flat out
said no for a guy who was king of kings and hadnt lose in years should
of had a rematch.,,, I dont think he would stand a chance....but there will
be some great fights
Only sub's I see Werdum catching Reem with r Armbar or RNC but I think Reem will most likely power out of other subs like Triangle's, Kimura's etc...dont see this fight going like there first fight at all
He caught Fedor. I don't see Overeem getting caught judging by his last few fights. To take that a step further, I don't see Fedor getting caught again if he ever faces Werdum again.
If it goes to the ground.. (without a torch light in his eye after the bell)
Alistar Overeem: Werdum be careful in the clinch , you'll get my knee
Werdum, You're biting off more than u can chew.. you be KO'ed before you know it
he's wayy wayyy wayy better since the first time. he's accomplished so much since then, i highly doubt it'll be the same way.
He's crushed sooo many cans since the last time he got submitted....
I'd hardly call Rogers or Duffee cans! And he absolutely annihilated them and now they're just cans...yeah! Reminds of how everyone who Bisping beats is just a can AFTER he wins although before the fight they're set to "Hendo his ass!" The fact is Overreem's improved dramatically since he was barely out of high school facing the likes of Chuck Liddel. Beating guys like Vitor, Vovchanchyn and Kharitonov in Pride!! But they were all cans, yeah? Then he improves his striking so much that he wins the K1 Grand Prix and batters Duffee in 19 seconds 3 weeks later. And he's improved his grappling on top of that. Taking all these things into consideration I'd say the only people who'd have a good chance of beating him would be Fedor, Velasquez, Maybe Dos, Carwin and no Lesnar couldn't handle him.
I wouldnt include JDS as having much of a chance IMO. Of all them mentioned though, the only probable fight we will see is Overeem - Fedor. I pray for this fight as it is probably the 2 best HWs on the planet, if not 2 of the top 3.
**** no Overeem is gonna DESTROY Werdum this time around
Honestly I don't blame a fighter if he does not want to fight Overeem. Its probably the most dangerous thing you could do. Shane Carwin too. But props to anyone who actually steps up and fights em.
I smell the upset guys. hopefully I'm wrong, I wanna see overeem vs fedor
Seems like Werdum's trying to redeem himself from saying he wouldn't have chosen to fight Overeem. Everyone started saying he was scared as a result of it, and he probably felt compelled to come back with a threat, which now brings the pressure. He played headgames with himself lol.
Anyone with any comprehension at all knew he just didn't care.
I watched comments exactly like this before the Fedor v. Werdum fight, everyone made Werdum seem like he was outta of his league and look what happened, I think overeem with probably end up with the win but after werdums last win you cant just count him out
power vs. skils.(on the ground)....but reem has got a bad chin..you will see ....maybe not in first fight ...
Overeem might put you in a coma.....be careful werdum.
I think Overeem will break his skull
Be careful werdum watch out for the reem's KNEE'S!!!
One thing is shore if the fight goes to the second round Overeem gona gas out just like other big muscle fighter like Lesnar and Carwin and Werdum will submit him
*sure
Lesnar has never gassed and Carwin doesn't represent every fighter with muscle... Your logic is folly friend : )
funny, overeem fought 3 fights in one night and didnt "gas" .. just saying
Lesner showed signs of gassing in the Couture fight. If he ever has to fight another man's fight for more that two rounds I think it is safe to say he will gas.
I've realized Werdum got a bit of a "fuc.k u dnt fuc.k with me" side and he really shouldnt be saying anything to fuel overeem, EVEN MORE. lol
lol lol lol omg the guy who beat him has nio chance lol lol lol he's gonna punch out a shark and throw it at him lol
LOL LOL LOL..wtf is so funny?
A lot of people are counting Werdum out and I just can't understand why. He submitted Fedor. He has already beaten Overeem (even if it was in 2006). He has TKO wins against Brandon Vera and Gonzaga. He has a win over top ten HW Big Foot Silva. The guy is not an easy fight. It seems like people count him out just because he got KOd by JDS and Overeem has been looking good lately.
Sorry Werdum, I dont think anyone can grab Overeems arms... its like trying to bear hug a tank to death... aint happnin. But what you can do to take out the tank, is use some precise guided missiles, which Fedor happens to have, one on each his fists :D
i agree with t666, even after werdum won he still admitted fedor was the best in the world because he knew he couldn't pull that same shit on fedor again. so when its probably overeem vs fedor it will be the ultimate k1 champ vs the ultimate pride champ it will be the best heavyweight mma fight in the world so far, if its werdum vs fedor you also know you got the 2 best in the world because werdum just somehow outlasted/submitted overeem, either way its all good for fedor and i know he will win it and take back #1 HW in the world, lol @ dana calling his heavyweights baddest man on the planet after fedor wins this, or maybe overeem will win and dana will have problems signing him lol
Overeems got lots to prove beating two KO'd fighters and being K1 champ dosen't mean anything.Fedor fought Shiltt and beat him and Samy was 6 times K1 champ
no 4 times k1gp champ.. get your facts right
Not when Fedor fought him. Winning K-1 is significant, because it shows that your striking is better than every other professional kickboxer in the world. When that fighter has an MMA game (like cro cop in '06), then it's especially relevant. Sounds to me like you're just hatin to be hatin.
Sammy is 3 years older than Fedor he was in his late 20's when they foght the diference is K1 was easyer than MMA for Shiltt . If Werdum laast for 2 or 3 rounds Overeem is dead meat is just gona be like Werdum vs Big Foot Silva
who is gonna last 2 or three rounds with that beast? werdum is a good fighter,great submissions but he gotta get reem to the ground first....not sure if has ko power for reem
don't need power to KO Overeem. Just a clean shot.
not recently.. no, hes taken shots from the best and was standing, except from badr hari whos argubly the best finisher in k1
Can you imagine though if Werdum manages to get the other arm (not in his face), in a submission, what an upset for the Heavyweight divisions everywhere wouid it be?
He would be remembered not only as the first guy who submitted Fedor but also the guy who is considerred to be the future of MMA heavyweights!
Yes I do leave in my own little world (put self sarcasm face here)
What id love to see is Werdum try to catch him in a Triangle and the Reem picking him up a slamming him KO " very Rampage like " .
But i see Barnett being the opposition for Reem in this tournament IMO
Werdum don't get much love from what I see, but he has beaten both Overeem and Fedor which is an accomplishment in itself. Agreed Overeem is a different beast now and Fedor just eventually got found out fighting people at their strengths and is regarded by many as far superior a HW to Werdum, but none the less he has beat them both.