yes because when people are not happy with the ufc they can leave, like werdum and hendo
They still have many other good fighters like Werdum, Mo, Overeem, Hendo, ect.
Mousasi, Diaz, Melendez, Aoki, Arlovski, Babalu, Cung Le, Robbie Lawler, Matt Lindland, Cyborg Santos (both), Gurgel, Carano...
Quite a few decent fighters if you ask me.
Personally I think Strikeforce should focus on building their womens division. It's such a huge advantage to have over the UFC. Lock in the best female fighters to long-ass contracts and build the division until you become the "UFC" of Womens MMA.
You'd have a market they could never touch, therefore you'd be guaranteed a profit because your events don't really clash.
I really think there's an untapped interest in womens MMA. And when chicks fight... They f*cking FIGHT!
werdum didnt leave the ufc he was cut
thats what dana wants you to believe
I think as long as they have Overeem, Diaz and Melendez they will do fine, not great, but fine
Honestly Shields is a pretty boring fighter so having him leave and getting someone else as the champ wont be that bad after all however having Fedor lose is a huge blow seeing that was prolly the best thing SF had going for them that and having Mousasi on such a incredible win streak but now both have lost and I think thats a huge blow to the company
I thought Strikeforce was fine before they got Fedor, and he has no aspirations for the heavy weight belt. The HW division will live on. I think Shields leaving hurts them more they really have no MW division legitimacy.
They never did... He's a welterweight that moved up to avoid his training partner Nick Diaz.
I could care less about Shields... he's pretty boring to watch.
guys need another place to go but have to stop tying to compete and
put together good card as long as they have good fighters ppl will watch
look at Bellator they have guys who love the sport and come to fight...
if they will do that they will star to get there own big names instead of paying tons for older big names, there is alot of good fighter,....its a matter of have cards and getting more fights out more free fights lower pay for ppv fights $30 or so as mma fans we will watch and build of f the great guys u have,....I mean two toe to toe fights........
look at the zombie man one fight for WEC and the dude is famous
I think as long as an organization treats their fighters fairly and with dignity the word will get around and it will continue to grow.
yes...but, if they lose Nick, gilbert, mousassi, mo, jacare and Overeem theyre in a lotta bother.
Well losing 8 top employees in any company is sure to start a tailspin. I think the better question here is: "In what capacity will Strikeforce continue if it loses Shields and Emelianenko?" They will survive if they choose not to merge with another company, but they would be greatly diminished without their top middleweight and heavyweight. That would also encourage the rest of the top Strikeforce fighters to consider jumping to the UFC. I have no reason to believe this, but I feel as though other fighters (Mousasi, Lawal, etc...) probably look to Fedor as a stable top fighter that chooses not fight with the UFC. That has to reinforce (in their minds) that they made the right decision to stay with Strikeforce. Without that example to be lead by, I think a lot of fighters would begin to doubt the validity of the company they fight for and be swayed to join the UFC.
But that's just my personal opinion.....
As long as they have Nick Diaz ill watch !
YES. They aren't all about Fedor like affliction,they represent the alternative someone can choose when someone hates the way Dana does things, that's a million times more important
Wow I'm surprised that came from you Madness. I totally agree. Not everyone wants McDonalds. Some people like Burger King.
You're only surprised that came from me because usually you can't understand what i'm saying.
Its hard to say. It all depends on what moves they make in the remainder of the year. The CANNOT keep devaluing their titles. Titles are supposed to be the motivating factor within any sport. Whether its a superbowl-ring, a trophy, or a belt, its fuels competitiveness and its what allows fans to separate average from elite. Sure as hardcore mma fans we enjoy pretty much any fight, but many are merely casual fans. Also, recruit, recruit, recruit!! There is always a lot of young talent looking to break into the game. I understand the need for a few solid, established names to help with recognition, but there is always that raw talent looking to be shaped and molded into the next champion.... Either way, I hope they get it together because competition breeds success and in the end it is the fans who will win....
it wont be as good but people will still watch it for sure
They 're force feeding OLD& NEW FANS
with past fights, best knockouts,& advertisements for pay per views.
On the other hand, SF does a piss poor job hyping their fights up out here in California
I only here about STRIKE FORCE, is when i get on LowKick, dont see them having much success with new & future fans
Jake Shields is a big draw? Though he may be a champion, he is one of the most boring fighters I can think of to watch.
Do you think those two fighters make the whole organization? Please...
I think they will survive, but that's the key word, survive. If things keep proceeding this way I believe the UFC will eventually hold most of the top fighters in the world in each weight class spare a few while 2 or 3 other medium sized organizations continue to just survive under them.
Having many MMA organizations with different fighters and goals is good for the sport cause it helps it to spread rapidly and become more famous...plus it is easier for many more fighters to gain experience and some money competing as pros.
If only one organization excisted, most fighters would have to fight as amateurs and being broke or having a day job to maintain themselves.
Bussiness-wise I believe that everyone agrees that competition is a good thing.
So my answer as a fan of MMA is YES ...they must survive even without their big names, because the sport needs competition and not monopoly.
They can't survive WITH Fedor and Shields.
Strikeforce are just barley hangin in there right now. But i think they will make through this storm.
i do think Strikeforce need an overhaul in the way it operates.
Production value sucks compared to UFC, has a cheap feeling to it (Entrances, Braodcasts etc).
They could also use better commentary.
Strikeforce need to expand like the UFC, they are expanding at a great force domestic and internationally.
Also they need to get their act together with their matchmaking and start giving a shi+ when it comes to their Championship titles.
The problem is, the only fighters they can sign are either fighters who they have to pay a lot to give them the incentive to come to a smaller promotion, or they're fighters who washed-out, or they're fighters who never made it. They can't afford to keep paying the big names to stick around, it's stupid business. The UFC is a very good business model, they've done what every other organization fails at. All of these farm-team organizations enjoy all the advantages of the UFC promoting MMA for them, getting it sanctioned in new places, opening new markets. They don't have to pay for any of that, and they still can't figure it out.
I think if Strikeforce starts losing any big names in their roster its bad for them. They already need more names so losing more would def be bad for them. Sure they can survive but will ppl care?
I posted this elsewhere on a similar htread, might have been another site though i can't remember.
The UFC business model is a bad one.
If they reall find success in quashing out all there competition, where is the new blood gonna come from? And it will dissuade many from taking mma seriously as a career path as a couple of losses and DW drops ya if ya face dont fit. Imagine the UFC being the only mma company out there. It would soon collapse.
Like it or not, the way UFC is being run makes it highly dependant on other organisations, and should they all fail, UFC would soon follow.
Competition is always good so I hope strikeforce and bellator find equal success to UFC. Then maybe DW would co promote and we could all see the match ups we dream of.
i think UFC will eventually have Overeem and Fedor, and Arlovski if he returns to form, hopefully, i love him, anyway there Heavyweight division might not have the top fighters in the world but they have plenty of great fighters in LW, MW, WW and LW