Fedor has fought some big name, and very good fighters. And he has beaten them. Cro Cop, Rogers, and Arlovski. He is a power house...
Look at the names you listed dude! Cro Cop and Arlovski... look at the rest he faught... Now tell me five more names that are in the top 20 fighters in MMA!
ever since fedor became champ hes been fighting tough competition, its not his fault after he defeat them they go down in ranking, fedors defeated amazing hw like, hunt, nog (2), coleman, randleman, sylvia, fujita, and ogawa and all of them were when they were in their primes, stop hating cause he isnt in ufc there is no denying fedor has fought and beaten the best time after time
nice UFC logo, dude...are you a rep? sounds like you know more about UFC than you know about MMA.
by "top 20" you mean "in the ufc right now", right? Look kid, everyone Fedor has faught during his career has been ranked well within the top 20. you are talking out of your ass, plain and simple.
I love the fact that you all say he has been fighting the best... I know he has been fighting the best that he can fight in the shitty organizations he has been in since Pride but that does not mean a lot if they are all still mediocre.
Kid??? Im a 28 year old man buddy!
I do like the UFC better than any other organization in MMA. That does not mean I dont know MMA you jackasses. There is great talent out there and none of them start in the UFC... but where do they go if they want to be considered the best in the world???
I think that he is a great fighter for sure but if he wants to be the best ever he needs to put some real names on the list in the W column. I know there are about 5 great names on that list but I want to see him fight some big names in their prime. Not before or after their prime. Overeem would be a great match up. So would Mir, Carwin or JDS.
Lesnar is a joke so I wont even put him on the list. You all are right about him not deserving to be in the same conversation as Fedor.
I dont hate the guy... I just want to see him challenged for a change.
nou nu anders om dan wie denk jij dat er op dit moment fedor kan verslaan
ik zou het niet weten jullie wel?
How are they "amazing"? this is why fedor fans get so much hate for the guy. Brock could run through hunt,coleman,randleman,fujita,arlovski etc and noone would be saying they were "great" then. Hell the only people who say they are great now are guys like you.
the only thing it is the fact that Fedor has and Brock has not...
omg!! brock dont diserve to be on a list with fedor!!!!!
who has brock fought??? the only good guy was grandpa couture!! if randy was 15 years younger he would win against brock!!! frank mir .... fedor would kill him in every aspect of MMA !!!! and brett rogers would win against mir to!!!! tell me one fighter who is unbeaten for 9 years like fedor!!!!!????
every UFC HW champion is only 2. becuse he cant fight the best in MMA ....... Fedor the one and only !!!!!
Why do Fedor fans defend him by questioning Anderson Silva, dont 4get which fighter is in the UFC where the big boyz fight, & the other fighter's company is on Showtime & CBS every 4 months..... PEACE
I think Fedor should get rid of that gut and fight at 205. Considering what he does to guys twice his size, I think he would dominate the light heavy weight division in the UFC. I'm not saying he couldn't beat Brock, I'm just saying he's at an incredible size disadvantage.
Fedors list goes on and on. He also defeated Shemmy Schilt, who Dana White was heavily courting at one time (in addition to Overoid). I believe Fedor will destroy him too. Fedor is fighting the best guys that they can throw at him currently. Just because there are now, only in the last year or two, some good guys in the UFC HW division doesn't invalidate Fedor as a great fighter. Yeah, it would be nice if he could be challenged by them, but the fact that he cant right now doesnt take away from him as a fighter. Remember when the UFC HW division sucked so badly a couple of years ago and the only challenge the UFC had to throw at Fedor would have been Randy Couture? I am pretty sure Fedor would have taken him out. Dana white fought hard so the fans could not see that one, even in some co-sponsored event. As it turns out, he is lucky it didnt happen because then the UFC HW division would have been seen for what it was, weak. But the fans keep lapping up the propaganda, almost verbatim, which is really only a ploy to make other organizations look bad and try to lure in more of the top tier fighters to continue the monopoly.
fedor has beaten the best fighters of the time repeatedly. i believe that 100%. the problem is that he is not able to fight all of the best now that he is staying with strikeforce. the true tests for him i believe would come in the form of cain velasquez and junior dos santos, if those 2 gained a little more experience first. they are phenomenal fighters, but lack overall experience. i do not believe fedor will be seriously challenged against current strikeforce heavyweights, but i also do not believe he will be challenged by brock lesnar. give cain or junior 3 of 4 top tier fights to give them confidence and composure in the cage, and they will be very formidable opponents for fedor.
Brett Rogers was NOT an easy opponent!! Anyone would be stupid to think so. I wish Fedor was in the UFC too because I believe it would be better if they were all in one organization, but I just have to live with it.
Agreed - Rogers was def not hand picked.
well... not hand picked to be an easy opponent. i believe he was picked to be challenging to show that fedor still has it. his style is tailor made for fedor though. he is slow and sloppy on the feet, and unpolished on the ground, although very powerful in each aspect of the game. this power was enough to challenge him, but i dont think anybody truly expected him to win against somebody who has a skillset almost perfectly designed to pick him apart.
He needs stiffer competition...another thing... he hasn't fought since November wtf
So, SIlva hasn't fought since august and only defended his title once last year
and lesnar also hasent fight since july of last year!!
hes going to be champ for a hole year with out defending his belt!
beside i bet Rogers would make a lot of good fights with UFC top contenders!
Fedor has foght the best in their prime , Cro cop , Noguiera , Fujita , Hunt , and beat them all!
and recent opppnents are all top 10!
Arlosvski , Rogers and Sylvia.
in my eyes are better than
Mir , couture , and heath hearring!
or at least the same!
beside Anderson Silva hasent really defend his Belt since UFC 82!!
I was talking about just fighting in general
Who said anything about defending a title?? And when did Anderson come into this??
But you are not talking about Siva fighting any strikeforce fighters tho...
And if he defends it more than once some guy like you will say his opponents are too easy, which is why he switches weights to challenge himself.
For one thing lesnar almost died he has a reason, Anderson Silva defended his title at 97 and yes fedor fought Cro Cop and Noguiera in their prime but Arlosvski and Silvia were out of their prime and I dont think Rogers has hit his prime yet, Mir finished who Fedor couldnt and fedor had 3 chances to do it hasnt he already beatin Hearring? and Coutore is 45 or 46 yrs old... i think most people need to rethink what they think about Fedor he hasnt fought top comp since pride and not all but some of the people in pride have not suceeded in the UFC so im not saying he is trash and that he is not as good as the UFC its just unless he signs with the UFC alot of people will not think he is the greatest fighter ever but if he joins the UFC and loses everyone will say "He lost when he was out of his prime!!!!" then im guna say that maybe he should have signed with the UFC in his prime instead of shitforce....
The guy is a good fighter at most in my opinion... Reason being is that he has not had a good fight in a long time, Rogers was not a good fight people, just think about it and stop lying to yourself. If he did go to the UFC right now and get his ass kicked everyone would say oh no he is out of his prime but thats all just bull shit. He had a chance to be the best in the world, that means beating all the best fighters in MMA which no matter how you look at it a lot of them are in the UFC, but he passed it up. Time to look for a new hero guys.
If he beats Mir, Carwin, Lesnar, and Valasquez then he will win the pot with me! Till then he is just another guy in the spotlight that does not deserve to be there!
damn, dude. you are pretty obsessed with Fedor. I don't think you know wtf you're taking about, but seriously...obsessed. move on.
I am obsessed?
You still feel the need to respond to my every comment though.
Bret Rogers would not survive in the UFC...... Put Junior Dos Santos in front of Fedor....... That will be a challenge for Fedor
Seriously? You're saying that Arlovski, Rogers and Sylvia are better than Mir or Couture? I recall Couture whipping the shit out of Sylvia and Mir breaking his arm. Rogers was only in the top ten of Strikeforce, not mma. I'm not saying that Fedor would go to the UFC and lose, I just think it would be better competition for him.
"Arlosvski , Rogers and Sylvia.
in my eyes are better than
Mir , couture , and heath hearring!"
Maybe Hearring......but wow....cant believe this nut hugger said that..
He's fought the best fighters available in the organization he's fought for. Let's not forget about all the wars he's had in Pride.
If it was college football, he will have essentially won the SEC or Big East or whatever championship when he wins the SF HW belt. You can only fight the best fighters in your organization if that's what your contractually bound to do.
Until a merger or move by Fedor, the dreamers/crybabies will have to wait for Fedor to take on the UFC elite (though he has beaten some of the tops in Pride and would easily dismantle any of the others).
It's like a mechanic getting sh*t about not taking less money to work on harder cars. Fedor's management felt he belonged in SF (due to money/limitations/whatever) and that's where he is. Everyone else needs to deal with it and move on.
Yea but look at the Organizations he was in after pride... Not even close! Pride and UFC are still the top two organizations in MMA. And I wonder why all the Pride guys left to go to the UFC. I know all of you will say the money, and I agree that that was a big part of it, but its also the fame. Being the UFC champ is what everyone really wants that go there for!
You hit your head somewhere? Like Dana's chin when you tried to stand up? Pride guys didn't leave. Zuffa bought Pride FC. Pride is no more, their fighters are in UFC.
Another internet warrior!
Your pretty pathetic dude... F****** ass clown!
While I agree with you the comparison to football doesn't really work imo, when Fedor was in Pride it was the biggest thing around and the UFC was college, Fedor is still the greatest fighter Pride ever had, this makes him the best of the Pride era. So in your comparison its like someone winning the player of the year 10 years in a row in the main league then that organization folds and college ball is now n1 yet Fedor doesn't want to play with those guys.
Yes but UFC has gotten better IMO since those days, maybe because MMA has gotten much more popular all over specially in North America. But I agree with you that Fedor is the best that Pride provided, and still a force to deal with only being 33 with really not many injuries that can affect his career.
Im just sayin that i didnt ever watch pride because i started watchn MMA a couple of years ago but i kno way to much already about it and i never heard about pride until i watched a UFC fight then i started lookin up old fights from pride but anyways back to my point i had never heard of pride until the UFC and i dont think that pride was ever on the tube in the USA so i think that pride is like the college aspect and UFC was the pro because even tho pride was good people from pride couldnt beat people from the UFC.
pride used to be on cable tv in the us. they were the top dogs of their time. now the ufc is the top dog. strikeforce has a few great guys, but not enough... they are not challenged enough to reach their full potential. gegard, cung le, fedor, and rogers would be great additions to the UFC in my opinion (and hendo coming back too). then they would be challenged by a deeper talent pool and we could see what they are truly capable of, instead of watching them just coast though victories until they pass their prime.
Rogers was higher ranked than Carwin and Cain,and Andrei was ranked 4,Tim Sylvia was rank 3 After he lost to Big Nog for the interim UFC HW belt just few moths befor Fedor fight
Thats before the UFC HW were really introduced.....Fedor fans have to face the fact that Arlovski and sylvia are trash look where they are now........no where...statistics at the time are irrelevant to the present, so dont even use that arguement douchee
those statistics were at the time of the fights. he used to fight the highest ranked fighters in the world. would be nice to get back on that track to shut up all the haters and the nuthuggers as well. he is human so he is beatable. at the same time, he is very capable of beating every heavyweight out there, regardless of the organization they fight for.
If he's the best, he should be fighting the best competition available. I have more respect for people like George and Anderson who take on the actual #1 contenders, in the most difficult organization, and dominate.
Fedor is fighting the best competition available, its just that the HW's in the UFC are not available to fight Fedor. I understand that America has never been a monarchy so you don't understand how it works, but you can't become the king without first killing the king. And MMA is not a freaking democracy.
Whattt.....Come on this guy dont want to fight anymore hes living on his name...Everyone and their Momma knew Rogers was going to loose but Roger just show up to fight..Man......My best fighter is the one who fights more then 2 fights a year and just fight the best outthere((all MMA not just UFC))....Im not giving my vote to this fighter...Im still waiting for my fighter...Im not just going to give it away because you feel like you have too...
And I understand that you're confused by simple concepts. Fedor could join any organization that Earth that he chose. He picked the weakest, BECAUSE it would only be weak competition available.
Stop making excuses. He should be fighting the best, period. He's not, period.
Fedor doesn't need to fight anyone, he already proved time after time that hes number 1, while, brock, carwn, mir, cain etc should be all trying to fight fedor if they wnt to be considered the best hw in mma, even if it means they have to go to strikeforce until then fedor will remain number 1
You just don't remain number 1 by sitting on your ass. As time goes by you will always need something new to cement your reason as being number one. In that case, champions would no longer have to defend their belts once they get it. You also have to remember there are always new people coming into the mix making competition harder and most of those people are going to go to the top org.
Pride and UFC were both the top 2 organizations in MMA history. Now combine these 2 together and it creates a mammoth. Strikeforce is no where near as good as UFC. It is most likely the 2nd top mma organization, but it is like comparing my blogkick score to rottenpunch's score. Fedor left his throne in the UFC when he decided not to join after the buy out and it is about damn time he takes it back because he is running out of time. Shit, we all get old and it would be nice to see if he can dominate UFC!!!
Also, why in the **** he didn't join? It would have ended all this darn controversy and non sense! Not proving yourself my ass...
I agree. I believe the official reason that Fedor didn't join the UFC wasn't money or anything like that. It was M1 Global. They wouldn't be allowed to co-promote the ppv's so they walked away. I am very hopeful now that maybe Mousasi will get to join the UFC since he's parted ways with M1. I would like to see Fedor do that as well, but I believe that he is a partner with M1.
fedor is voor 20procent mede eigenaar van m1
dus zal nooit op geven m1 en sambo
At least your honest Ninja. Fedor doesn't need to fight anyone. He can hide in a weak organization fighting punks until he retires, and his obsessed fans won't have anything to say about it.
All the competition is in the UFC, the best fighters do what they can to fight in the UFC, they go to Strikeforce as a last resort.
ik ben het met je eens hij is gewoon de beste
lol ...you and YoMama should go out to dinner and obsess about Fedor together. then you can at least entertain each other.
for GSP YES , BUT FOR SILVA?
hes last 2 title defenses were to leites and cotte!
and now maia who is 1-1 on his last 2 fights!
at least GSP defend it vs Alves , Bj penn , John Fitch!
now thats what i call top competition , but silva?
he didnt want the rematch with Hendo , and dosent want to fight Sonnen .
Fedor would fight anyone !!
Dana White is the one stopping him!
if he really wants Fedor them he must offer him a Human contract
were he dosent need to sold his soul!!
simple because the UFC needs more Fedor
than Fedor needs the UFC .
the UFC is the number 1 organization with out the the num 1 heavyweight in the world!
so dont hate fedor for having some self respect!
How come Anderson Silva does not want to fight Hendo again? then or Sonen or Machida? and GSP is about to fight Dan Hardy...
Fedor is not in the UFC because he does not wnat to get milked, he owns a part of M-1 global, why would he want to sign a contract for a fight when he is getting money for the whole show?
Dana could co-promte at least ones
to see what happend! it could make the UFC even better!
even tho what i stated above, your right but the UFC and MMA like any other sport is Buisness > entertainment
over and over and over again i see this retarded comment about Dana White, he offered fedor lots of money, but M1 Global (being the greedy russians they are) wanted what to split the fight profits down the line for what? one fighter? thats rediculous. Obviously u people have no business sense lemme break it down for u, your selling 10 kinds of donuts, and some company wants 30% of your profits for one type of donut, is 1/10 worth 1/3? no it isnt GG kids...
Ok, first... Silva has already gone through all the middleweights of the UFC. Sonnon is on a medical suspension due to his cut on his head. Hendo left because they wouldn't pay him what he wanted. Who's left to fight? Vitor was the best fight for him and Vitor pulled out due to injury. It happens. Now he's going to fight Maia. Not the greatest fight and Silva will hurt him but no one else is left.
Second, Fedor... Dana White isn't stopping him. They offered him more money than any other fighter. 5 mil per fight. They gave him leave to compete in his sambo matches which they don't really allow any other fighter to do. They gave Fedor/M1 EVERYTHING they wanted except co-promotion. How is Dana the one stopping him?
Third... The UFC does not NEED Fedor. Not anymore than Fedor needs the UFC. Strikeforce was a third rate mma organization without Fedor and a second rate one with him. These debates will rage on and on but until Fedor steps into the UFC and takes the title and destroys all the hw's, the debates will continue.
On a side note, Strikeforce will eventually close up shop. I say this because the only big draw they have is Fedor. But since M1 has co-promotion of the shows he's in, they get half of the profits without putting any cash in what so ever. Add that with the big payday that Fedor get paid on top of it and I'm sure that Strikeforce is in the red for those shows. I am not positive but I believe that once M1 started getting co-promotion of Pride FC, not long after that Pride went under. Affliction also. How much longer does Strikeforce have?
fedor is a wicked fighter and would do well in the ufc no matter wat! he would fight anyone they tell him to. if he was scared of fighting the heavyweights in ufc now he woulda gone ufc a while back when it was relitivly weak, i mean he beat a fair few ex ufc champs from the past few years right! Bret rodgers is a top contender, he would do well in ufc also, and i rekon he would destroy anyone on tuf 10 inclueding roy 'big country' nelson so dana is full of shit when he says bret rodgers is crap. also i think fador is getting better and better he needs to go ufc cuz it would be sick seeing him climb the ladder to the title
Fedor has put down some serious fighters, that's for sure.
He just hasn't put down anyone that is in the active run for the current UFC Heavyweight race.
Arlovski was already on the downhill slide when he fought Fedor.
Brett Rogers has power, but his striking is still haymaker galore.
I have high hopes that Fedor will come to the UFC after this little hick-up with M1. I believe Dana was alluding to the possibility at the 74minute long Australia Fan Q&A he did.
Arlovski was on a 5 winning streak! when he fight fedor!
including 3 consecutive wins on the UFC and his last fight won by KO!
and other 2 more wins on ELITEXC and AFLICTION both by KO!
downhill? i call that a freaking real contender!!!
well seeing that he lost to the champ twice in the UFC and other than Werdum he KOd some of the lower ranked fighters in the UFC and then KOd someone who got DOMINATED by a title contender in the UFC and someone who had to win the ultimate fighter to get in the UFC so he was out of prime to me.
Anderson never foght the n1 contendor and still not Maia is not n1 contendor Thales not Cote is not Irwin is not Griffinwas just KO'd from Rashad ,Hendo just lost from Rampage Anderson is avoiding competitions since PRIDE he was fighthing bums in PRIDE and loosing
I agree, Anderson has definitely hand picked his opponents for a long time, we all know that his mangers has a huge say in who Silva fights.
Hopefully they won't manage to get out of the Chael fight thou they are trying really really hard. My suspicion is that Silva might abandon his belt and go to 205 permanently after the Maia fight.
Ridiculous, anyone who suggests Anderson is a paper-champion, is a fool. The guy is absolutely dominant, fighting in a real organization, against real competition. Same with George. Same With Lyoto. Same with Bj. Same with Lesnar.
You can't say that for Fedor.
so silva beat Henderson who just got beat by rampage but had time to train for about 4 or 5 months and he had the chance to redeem himself so he had a the drive to win but now hes fighting for the strikeforce middleweight title hmmmmmm.
UFC HW devision sucks amator champ with 4-1 in Strike force he gona get killed from Rogers,Overeem,and the last emperor.Brock beat Randy and Mir to be champ Brandor Vera TKO'd Mir and beat Randy.Mir was TKO'd from 2 fighters who lost from Arlovski
Vera lost to Randy dude... just lookin out for my boy lol.
Fedor fought the Best in the world in the recent years ! only the best !
Silvia who has an awesome technique ! one of the most talented guy around : Arlowski ! , and , tHE WORLD REKNOWN : BRETT ROGERS . Everyne knew Rogers before this fight cause he is a great champion , and fedor destroyed him !
Fedor is the best .
(this comment was quite ironic)
well fedor has only fought top 10 ranked HW's in his last fights.
fedor just isn't in a org with a uncertain HW picture. the UFC has a dual dynamic you either think brock is a faux champion who was handed a 1yr and 3 month ringrust covered randy, and that Mir is being overhyped simply because he beat the subpar champ; and that the title will either end up on the waist of JDS,Carwin,or Cain by the end of the year. or you think that brock is simply that good and that his lack of experience is inconsiquential; being that he is so naturally good at the sport that he will stem roll over all competition. flat out fact that the UFC HW division has never been this interesting.
i tend to lean toward the faux champion outlook, i didn't think randy would hold the belt long when he won it. so to me him winning the belt off of a long break from fighting couture wasn't very impressive also considering the fact that randy controlled the much larger brock for the majority of the fight. i bet on brock that fight not because i thought he was better than randy but because i thought randy's time off was going to show in the fight and it did.
if brock defends his title 3-4 times then i think a fight against fedor and brock would be interesting, right now i think Carwin or JDS would put his lights out and would be more interested in seeing fedor fight either of them over brock.
fedor will have more top 10 HW's to fight because the UFC will release some of them from contract or they will opt to not sign. happens all the time, normally a issue of money or marketing. not to mention that 3 top 10 HW's other than Fedor are not signed to UFC and leave the ranks open to new up and coming HW's to change up the rankings.
hopefully UFC can work something out with M-1 or fedor will get some good advice from family or friends and leave the management/promotion since they do seem to be out to further their org rather than fedor's career in america.
Sorry, but a big fat "No" to your post.
You hit some good points on Couture. But you forget that Brock steam rolled Heath Hearing and Frank Mir.
Brock was winning Lesnar-Mir 1 when he got caught in a leg lock. He quickly fixed that and turned around and dominated him.
There is no arguing that Frank Mir (Whether D-bag or not) is not in the top of MMA.
Fighting is about title's and being known as the best. If Fedor wants to be considered the best, than he needs to beat people with titles.
heath herring was washed up already, he had been on the downward spiral since 06 he just happens to have been bought up by the UFC with pride. he was 3-3 out of his last 6(not counting the NC)before the fight with lesnar. his top ten status had been long gone by 08 he hadn't been a relavent HW for over 2 years. he could have fought a better more competitive fighter than Herring.
mir at the time of his first fight with lesnar was one foot out the door in the UFC. he was 2-2 out of his last 4 prior to the brock fight with loses to vera and cruz. Mir is overrated no doubt, his win over Nog is questionable and beating chieck kongo used to be a "do it or your out of the UFC" kind of fight. i agree he was getting rolled by Lesnar in the first, but lesnar is not that great so he got caught in a white belt moment.
the quality of the compitition that brock has faced is low, couture was a weak champion JDS,Carwin,or Cain could have taken the title off of him at HW imo, and that is really the best he has faced.
title don't mean squat, the quality of the champion who holds it is what matters. thats why the WW title in the UFC is without a doubt the top title, because GSP holds it. if it was like the HW title which has been a revolving door for some time it would lose some of its luster. champions are defined by title defenses and the value of the title is in beating a fighter like GSP who has proven to deserve the title. (or anderson silva,BJ Penn)
the case is even greater for the other "champ" overeem for obvious reasons
It's called a motorcycle accident, and yes he was not at 100% when he fought Nog either.
Nog is considered one of the best HW's out there, yet people want to question Mir's win over Nog. Why? Nog was over his Staph infection and Frank Mir was equally battling back to full form from his crash. Mir's striking is very good and was one of the first one's to show that Nog's chin, although still tough, can be beaten. All these little excuses of "he lost because of generic excuse A" is dumb. Whatever his personal reasons where for not preforming, he didn't and got beat.
You never step into the ring at 100%. Additionally anyone who thinks that Brock is not the real deal is a fool.
4 of the top 10 HW are in Strikeforce,6 of them in UFC Fedor alwredy beat Big Nog at his prime 2 times if you wana fight the best you go to the best if i was HW fighter i wuld like to fight Fedor dosent mater wich organisation
4 of the top 10? HAH!
Fedor just foght 3 top 10 HW fghters give me a one UFC HW who foght 3 top 10 fighters in his last 3 fights
Dos Santos foght Yvel,Cro cop,and Stefan Struve none of them top10,Carwin no top10 fights ever,Mir foght Kongo and lost to Brock badly, Brock foght only 1 top10 Frank Mir 1 win 1 loss,Cain foght only 1 top10 Big Nog wich is not the same fighter any more and you teling me UFC HW are fighting the top competiton and Fedor not
ya i no, fedor is easily the best and anyways mir wasn't even top 10 in the first lesnar fight he was coming off from 2 back to back tko loses and fedor's last three fights where wit sylvia who was ranked 3, arloski was 4 and rogers was 8, people need to stop hating on fedor just cause hes not in ufc
exactly. well a lot of these kids just found out about the UFC since it hit the mainstream, and all of a sudden their goddam MMA experts...ridiculous.
The last 3 fights he had he, fought guys that were among the top 10 HW at the time, Silvia lost to Nog via submission but he was putting a beat on Nog´s face, Andrei Arlovski defeated Roy Nelson (IFL champion and TUF Winer) Ben Rothwell and Fabricio Werdun prior to his Fight with Fedor, and Rogers KTFO of Arlovski, they were not hand picked, they were serious treaths to Fedor...
He is the best HW in MMA history and in my opinion the best pound4pound that has ever existed...
Unless he gets to the biggest org, not many will be satisfied and it will always haunt his legacy, he needs to clear out the UFC HWs if he can, then go where ever he likes.
If he doesnt care then theres nothing left in his legacy really.
Just possibly the very best and speculation will always be there, hopefully he is realizing this.
But why he has to? just because some idiots did not see what he did in Pride? when Pride was around all the top guys were there, now all UFC fans (not necesarily MMA fans) want to see Fedor proving something that real MMA fans and profesional figthers already now...
They know he stomped a bunch of people in a roided-out organization, who have almost all looked like trash when they took their shot in the UFC. How many fighters did Pride have? How many were able to transition to the UFC successfully? 5?
Fedor is in a weak organization fighting bums. All you'll ever be able to do is speculate as to how Fedor would dominate the UFC, because we're never going to see him fight another decent fighter ever again.
shogun, rampage, wanderlei, anderson silva, big nog, little nog, dan henderson, fair enough thats only 7, but out of those 7, 6 of them have had title shots, and 3 of them have held belts. still, plenty more pride fighters could have walked into ufc but stayed in japan. if pride was so poor, why did ufc see it as such a threat they felt the need to buy it out and close the brand?>
If Pride was so great, why was it up for sale? Only a couple the names you mentioned looked anything near as good as they did in Pride after moving over. It's undeniable. And, fighters didn't choose to stay in Japan and remain anonymous and obscure unknowns simply because they don't like fame and money and competition. They staid because they had no choice. For the same reason that Overroids will only fight in Japan.
Pride was doing fine.It got screwed by Fuji TV because they "said" Pride was involved with the Yakuza (like half of the major companies in Japan aren't involved too, ha ha). I was in Japan when it happened very suddenly and unexpectedly. It sucked.
All that I have to say about Brock Lesnar' s title. He got a shot against an aging Randy Couture, who realistically is a light heavyweight, and he got that shot coming off a loss....wtf.
The marketing of Dana White was genius. He tells us this guy is the best in the world and we drink the kool aid.
Should be easy for Fedor to take the belt then? And he would be a legitimate champion in the best organization, as opposed to fighting non-contenders in a 2nd rate organization. True?
Allow sports agents to represent their athletes, allow them to negotiate contracts, and you will get the best fighters.
Did anyone ever think that maybe Dana White cooked the deal? You have a monster with the title, right? You give him a sh*t deal so that he will refuse it...then you tell everyone that he is scared to fight, and you keep your invincible title holder and keep getting him to fight other fighters who signed s*it deals. White is a genius.
Neither option applied actually.
His opponents havent been the best around except Rogers who was a very good opponent the way I see it, but now in Strikeforce there really isnt anyone left, so there are many other great opponents in other orgs.
its not that the strikeforce heavyweights are no good incomparison to the UFC heavyweights, its just they dont have the depth like the UFC has. FV as his next opponet is a decent match up, but nothing special. BR was a good match up and overoids will be a good fight, but after that theres really no one left
Its so funny that all the Fedor fans have to convince themselves he is the best. Its also funny seeing all the same people making the same comments over and over saying he is the best. Kinda strange huh?
kinda like how you make the same tired arguments over and over on this thread about why you think he isn't the best, huh?
Its because D bags like you cant find anything else to f****** talk about so I see the same old shit all the time.
And I am not some bitch that changes what my beliefs are because of other peoples opinions.
They have been sorta "meh" since crocop, but that's the heavyweight division for you.
Dana white is a pussy, he wont co-promote cause he knows Fedor will rip the HW division and Gegard Mousasi will rip the LHW division, making the UFC a big joke...
he co-promoted with pride back in the day and his fighters always got killed by the pride fighters.. he wont make the same mistake again.
He won't co-promote with joke no-talent organizations because it's bad business to have multiple belts floating around.
There is one fighter worth mentioning in Strikeforce. And there are only a few fighters worth mentioning to come out of fail-Pride.
Fedor is fighting bums, in a weak organization, your massive girl-crush on him doesn't change that fact. There are several HW's in the UFC who can beat him, and none in Strikeforce. That's why he's in Strikeforce. Your excuses don't change the facts.
Anyone who has the first clue about MMA will acknowledge that the UFC is the organization to be in, and that Strikeforce is pathetic.
Man you are ignorant. UFC was the org that had failed. Some really rich guys bought it who had good marketing and a lot of resources, finally they were able to purchase Pride. Pride never failed.
Wuy PRIDE sold to the UFC.Wuy UFC sold 10 procent to to Alkaida
You must be drunk buddy. They accepted the offer to sell a piece of the UFC because they're smart business people who were offered a massive amount of money, and the opportunity to open up a huge new market (people in the middle-east are big fight fans, Abu Dhabi will be the fastest sell-out of tickets in MMA history).
Pride was bought out because they were failing and needed the money. If you think the UFC is in financial trouble, then I'd like some of whatever it is that you're high on.
They were the best outside the UFC at the times. Why would he have gone and negotiated with the UFC if he had no intention of fighting there? So no not hand picked but had he joined the UFC he would've been fighting better guys 4 sho.
Give me a one UFC HW fighter with 3 top10 fights like Fedor.Werdum and Overeem are top10
You think Werdum and Overroids are top-10, enough said.
If Fedor isn't fighting in UFC his options are limited, he's fought the best he could so far, not his fault overeem is blanking Strikeforce. Werdum should be an ok opponent but other than that an easy win for Fedor, he's really gonna need to get his chubby a*se to the UFC before he gets too old to compete at the highest level and we don't all go 'what if....'!
did you ever look at the ranking at all Fedor is the only HW who is fighting top10 oponents non sop i told you give me a one UFC HW who foght 3 top10 HW's
don't bother, he is in denial. Fedor envy.
Fedor is old news his best days were n pride y cant u fools get it though u heads he wouldnt last 2 rds wit Brock n i hate brock n i dont even need to tell u wut my man Cain would do to him even the new guys like Duffe would give him hell Santos would knock em dead if u guys want to call him the best dats the guys he needs to fight not Rogers AA n sure as hell Werdum
Brock is 33 years old and 5 fights
Just so everyone knows, it's spelled L O S E R. Not L O O S E R. That is all.
All Dana would have to do is sign a one fight deal and let it happen. He won't because of two reasons...
1) If Fedor wins he will not be under contractual obligation to the UFC,
2) If he wins and walks the UFC Heavyweight title will never have legitimacy again.
This fight will never, ever happen until Dana White is off the reins, until he really does do what the fans want. Fu**ing let them fight!!!