Alistair Overeem responds to Dana White, says Brock Lesnar shouldn't be in the Top 5
Posted on November 17, 2010, 05:33 PM by Jamie KennedyStrikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair ''The Demolition Man'' Overeem has responded to Dana White's recent comments about him, where White claimed that anyone who has Overeem in their top 10 Heavyweight rankings is stupid. Overeem is currently training for his K1 World Grand Prix quarter final fight against Tyrone Sprong, spiced-up the argument by stating that the former UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar is also a questionable Top 10 HW material:
Dana White made recent comments about you not being ranked in the top 10, what's your take on the comments?
''Dana is entitled to his own opinion and has some valid arguments to claim his case but I don't feel that they are that strong''
What do you think of those arguments he makes?
''You know, he's claiming that I didn't defeat anybody in the top 10 so why should you rank me. That's true but the fact of the matter is that I'm a very active fighter and you can see that I'm a different fighter than I was at 205lbs. I'm undefeated since 2008 when I became a heavyweight and even more important I have finished all the fights in the first round, but then again Dana is the president of the company so he's going to say stuff like that. To be honest it doesn't bother me because I can make a good case for being in the top 10.''
And what are your arguments for your case?
''First of all he was telling me that I didn't fight anybody in the top 10, that's not entirely true. When I defended my title against Brett Rogers, Rogers was considered top 10 after he defeated a former number 2 or 3 fighter Arlovski. I was not in the top 10 at the time and when I defeated Brett Rogers I enter the virtual rankings. Now everybody is saying that Brett Rogers shouldn't have been in the top 10 in the first place, but that's the same as saying Brock doesn't deserve a spot on number 2. After what Cain did to Brock it's silly to give Brock a top 5 spot, but that's my opinion. He's still a good fighter but having a 5-2 record and almost losing to Carwin and having wins over Herring, Couture and Mir (which he lost to as well) is not something that I'm very impressed about. I'm not going to call the media stupid like Dana but let me put it this way; How can a real MMA insider put a Brock Lesnar above Fedor Emelianenko or even JDS. The fact of the matter is I like that people are debating the rankings but I don't take them that seriously''
Why don't you take them seriously?
''You know when I heard that Brett Rogers was a top 10 fighter and I wasn't ranked, I thought he was the favourite going into the fight. Then a friend of mine called and told me that he was going to bet on me but that I was the favourite and the odds were in my favour. So if the bookmarks don't even use the ranking then you can say that they don't mean that much. The same thing before the Cain vs Brock fight, I saw a preview article and most of the fans and other fighters thought that Cain was going to win the fight, that's strange if the ranking put him number 1 and the organization calls him the baddest man on the planet''
If you can make the ranking yourself what would the ranking look like?
'' I am not going to make my own top 10 because that will just create more room for debate and that's not necessary. People have to define first what criteria comes into play when making a ranking system. Some people use only their last fight and what opposition they have fought, other people look at skill set, talent, way of fighting style and popularity. Now people tend to use both criteria and therefore you have ranking that can be heavily debated. That's why Dana White is saying that I don't belong in the top 10, because he doesn't take into account my K1 fights and doesn't think that beating one top 10 fighter is good enough for entering the ranking. On the other hand you have Bas Rutten that says that I'm the number 1 heavyweight in the world. He uses my experience, potential, skill set and the way I finished fights against opposition that is not considered top 10. He also knows that my striking is improved very much and therefore uses my K1 experience. So lets say the truth is somewhere in the middle. I'm fully aware that I have to prove myself, I know I can defeat anybody so it's my job to prove it to my fans and to my doubters''
What do you think of Dana's claim that the best fighters fight in the UFC and fight each other 3 times a year?
'' It's not strange that Dana is making such a claim, but if really thinks that his heavyweight division is the best in the world he should he should let 5 heavyweights of the UFC fight 5 heavyweights from Strikeforce otherwise he can never justify his claim that the UFC has the best heavyweights in the world. My opinion is this one that Strikeforce have a good chance winning. They tried it when PRIDE was there so it's not something new. If Strikeforce are going to have a tournament format they should reserve a spot for a UFC fighter, that would be awesome. About the fact that they fight each other 3 times a year, I can only say he has a valid point but Strikforce is a young organization give them time to prove themselves. They have a great roster of fighters so I'm confident that they will make the fights happen very soon. I'm ready to fight 2-3 times in 2011!''
Overeem brings up some valid points himself, covering a range of topics. Ubereem will look to prove his worth at the K-1 2010 WGP Final, which will take place next month, on December 11th at the Ariake Coliseum in Tokyo, Japan.
SOURCE: MixFight.nl via BloodyElbow.com
Comments
I have Lesnar like #6 or 7! so Alistar you know your stuff lol
its just matter of time before Dana starts begging Alistar to fight for the UFC!
Reem said that Dana has asked and after he beat the top guys in
Strikeforce would go were the fighters are which would be in the UFC
cool interview and good diplomatic answers :D
reem is good, he didnt burn any briges and still has a chance to get hired by the ufc
Even if he burns the bridges and later tells DW that he wants to come to the UFC, Dana would kiss me and welcome him by telling that he is number 1. Money is more important to him. Look at Tito or Rampage.
Ya i really like Overeem, every time he opens his mouth something intelligent comes out of it. He's right in acknowledging that Dana has some points questioning his competition but he also knows that Dana has a motive behind what he says. What Overeem has done with the opponents he has faced has really been quite impressive. He's top 10 and Dana knows it.
Reem is very smart man.
When Dana tries to discredit uniquely talented fighters like Fedor and Overeem or an organization like the Strikeforce, it's actually a recognition of their merit. Haven't you noticed, for instance, that Mr. White almost never mentions smaller organizations like Bellator? That's b/c he doesn't see them as serious competition...Dana is a smart guy who can spot talent when he sees it...I'm sure he's full aware of the the distinguished status and wide appeal of the Reem (who is a real star in countries like Japan)...Obfuscating and twisting truths and facts is what Dana is good at...It's because of him that Brock became overnight number one in HW rankings, while Fedor who has been in the sport forever and has a nearly spotless record (I see Werdum's victory as a one-time fluke) is relegated to fourth or is doesn't even appear in certain rankings (MMA Connected, for instance)...
As Overeem says, there is no way of knowing for certain who is the best fighter unless they square in a cage--something the jealous and selfish Dana will NEVER agree to................
MMA connected is Dana's butt kissers! I like SF, they have a very good HW division. The problem with SF is that they cannot make them fight, has no authority over those fighters. If Scott Coker makes them fight, it can have very good matchups.
High five to Alistair, low-kick to Dana White! He he.
DAMN Dana can be a prick how is that going to get Overeem to the
UFC, Ive heard him talk about it ........Overeem has fought the top guys for years in Pride and that was be fore he went to heavy weight sorry
but think Overeem has a chance to be the next Fedor fought the top guys
in Pride is the king of K-1 and dominates in Strikeforce were he has trouble getting fights ( still dont understand how fights can just refuse
a fight when they are next in line ) Overeem had to fight Brett cause two other guys said no.........and Dana says Brock should be on the list
and Overeem not, on and off paper Brock doesnt come close
as heavy weights think Overeem is in the top 5
Damn why is he not in the UFC?
I'm with Overeem on this one. I have met him a few months ago.
That guy is HUGE, but verry nice.
I think Dana White is stupid himself. Come on, what has Brock proved? The guy lost at his UFC debut, then got a decision win over Heath Herring. And then he got a title shot. Now tell me how stupid is this? And after this he fought 1 time a year.
And Overeem is having 6 fights a year MMA and K-1 together.
Cain had to knockout 5 guys before getting a title shot. How is this possible? Is this because Dana White wants a true American to be the Champ?
cus if he signed with the ufc he wouldn't be allowed compete in K-1, something that's pretty important to him. if he wins the grand prix this year then it's likely he'll sign with the ufc in late 2011/2012.
Well said Reem, well said ;-)
Alistair had some ****in awesome points there.
It's amazing how the person who's supposed to be a complete business professional keeps making himself look low class, arrogant and inexperienced.
While a practitioner of the sport who isn't required to have vast knowledge of statistics or a positive attitude of any kind and may even be looked upon as a thug, or low class due to his profession, is making himself look like a genius by simply using common sense and experience.
Overeem is an awesome all around guy. I have a lot of respect for his character his skills, determination and his ability to use common sense while staying completely professional and neutral.
I agree completely with you Fontez,im happy Overeem spoke out on this even though he didnt even have to.
Thats why I am an Overeem fan... His attitude. He had no problem admitting that there is validity in Dana White's statements. However, just as it is in Dana's best interest to discount Overeem as a top ten fighter, it is in Overeem's best interest to make a case for why he should be considered as a top ten fighter. As was stated, the truth lies somewhere in the middle : )
Overeem is very objective and respectful in the interview...No foul words, no insults, no hard feelings even...Compare to Dana's virulent and rather uncalled for attacks against anyone who doesn't belong to his organization/club...
I would love to see the UFC and SF do a HW tourni!
Overeem V Cain would be amazing! I wouldn't pick a favorite in that fight!
Based on my personal rankings
Fedor V Carwin = Fedor (I have Fedor as #1 still but champ HAS to fight champ, right?)
Barnett V JDS = Barnett
Werdum V Mir = it could go either way. I think Mir has a huge advantage in the stand up but if it goes to the ground Werdum will sub him.
Big Foot V Big Nog = No Clue. I have Foot above Nog but I think it could go either way.
SO IMHO, I would say that is three too close to call and two that would go to SF. Even if the match ups were different (it will never actually happen) I would bet on Fedor and Barnett over any UFC opponent Other than Cain (who I give a shot but wouldn't be my favorite either).
I think the top 3 SF HW's are Overeem, Werdum and Fedor so they should fight the top 3 UFC HW's which are Cain, Dos Santos and Brock so in that way I see Cain and Dos Santos winning and as for Fedor vs Brock that could go either way depending on how fast Brock its the fight to the ground and after those three I would like to see Carwin vs Barnett which would b a KO for Carwin and then Big Foot vs Mir which Mir would win
Sorry about the weak, I meant cool. I don't see Carwin getting a KO on Barnett. I think he would get taken down and out worked. I do think he would have the best chance against Barnett out of all of the UFC HWs (other than Cain) though.
Ya Barnett vs Carwin would be close but Carwin has good takedown defense...Lesnar couldn't take him down until he was gassed and Barnett doesnt have better takedowns then Lesnar, so I think Carwin would eventually connect and KO Barnett
It would be hard to decide the matchups, so it would have to be done by a lottery for sure (this would be a dream come true but unfortunatly will never happen).
reem, fedor, werdum, barnett, and silva for strikeforce
cain, jds, shane, brock, mir for ufc
I think fair matchups would be
Fedor vs Cain
Reem vs Shane
barnett vs brock
werdum vs mir
silva vs JDS
i could do a little juggling with reem cain shane and jds matchups, but i still think those are the most fair, and honestly i think most people would agree that anything could happen in those fights forsure
I would have Cain versus Fedor and Overeem versus Carwin.
Just cause its fun to do, I would say predictions wise, Silva would upset JDS (out boxed a very technical arlovski, and has a 5 inch reach advantage)....Mir would beat Werdum probaly, brock seems pretty beatable right now so barnett would take him out, and the last 2 are so hard to predict, could go either way, but i would say Reem would have his way with shane, and as much as i want to say fedor would beat cain, i think cain is a special special fighter and would get the W.
Oh, and so you know how I think Barnett V JDS would look, I think it would go like the first three rounds of Jake Shields V Hendo. I think JDS would hurt Barnett in the first round and then get dominated on the ground. The only difference would be that Barnett's GNP would do damage and I would bet on a third round stoppage.
this is the fighter that i want to see in action the most next year. i cant wait
yeah reem. SF has some dope Heavyweights. Now they just need to get the events rolling.
I have a feeling strikeforce will give the UFC some competition soon. The UFC really does not have the best fighters in the world.
That's completely innacurate and a blatant lie.
The UFC DOES have the majority of the best fighters in the world. In fact I'd say they have the best fighter in every weight class by far other than heavyweight.
Thats funny, the UFC picks fighters from Strikeforce...you might wanna take the Dana poster off your wall and think about it.
They have some of them.
Nice post but i think overeem doesnt speak that way sounds like someone wrote this for him. But Overeem is top 10 heavyweight althought he is overhyped before he wins another top 10 fight
"Some people use only their last fight and what opposition they have fought, other people look at skill set, talent, way of fighting style and popularity. "
If Overeem fights in UFC he never gona have chance to fight Fedor.I think UFC shuld loosen up a bit and let tere fighters fight wre they want
The reem has surprised me I will say, I wasnt his biggest fan when he was at LHW. He used to be a bit of a dirty fighter
Very good interview and honestly I believe Overeem is the most honest, smartest and well spoken fighter atm. But what impresses me the most is his honesty and how composed and self confident he is that he really feels no need to defend himself to someone like Dana.
And honestly people who's opinion about MMA should count more Bas Ruten or Dana White? :)
fedor, reem,werdum would rule in ufc for sure. look what happened to the ufc superman brock against cain. now imagine what fedor would do to him..
Sure he's smarter than Dana, who' s only a yuppie thinking about money and prestige.
an OLD yuppie
Overeem should come to the UFC and prove Dana wrong by defeating lesnar.