Alistair Overeem out to prove he's the best

Overeem will win the tourny

naaaaa Fedor will

Arlovski will win!!! =D

The tounny should honestly have had fedor and reem on oposite sides, and as for the possible reem fedor fight, i honestly believe huge muscules dont decide a fights ending....i know reem aint just big muscules, but yeah.. every1 thought brock was super legit until a very skilled and persistant fighter proved huge muscles can only produce a gamplan of push and dominate.... i know reem is k1 legit but... i think fedor will find a way to win (most likly speed advantage and submissions skills from his back). oh yeah, has any1 seen overreems cardio?? Big muscules = samll gastank!

Overeem is the cream of the crap!

Can you say Contradictions.

Fedor vs randelman, fedor by kimura and I heard Randelman's big muscular arm didnt help. Who knows if werdum or fedor will pull it off against reem, i guess fedor cause he has more strength.

huge muscles couples with good technique

everyone seems to have forgotten that reem, while he is a world class elite striker, and a good on the ground too, has a bit of a dodgey chin and it's been exposed by fighters worse than fedor before. i'm not saying reem hasn't a chance, but i still believe the last emperor will prevail and regain his throne among the heavyweight ranks. :D

несомненно Оверим на сегодня один из сильнейших бойцов в ММА. Остается только одно, чтоб Федор выиграл бой у Сильвы. А дальше будет самый грандиозный и увлекательный супербой который определит настоящего чемпиона.

i agree

I dont know.....I just dont know.....................................what he typed

Ummm, thank God for interpretors. Yes, it will decide the present champion, Now whatt do you think about this?



milshake שלי מביא את כל הבנים אל החצר, הם אוהבים, זה יותר טוב משלך.

Оверим будет доказать миру, что он великий тяжеловес в этом турнире. Простите, что я ужасно Россию. :)



Благодарю вас Google Translate :D

what does Pinocchio have to do with it? leave them poor little boy outta this...

В этом турнире все будут доказывать свою значимость. Но только двое докажут в очной ставке кто же из них настоящий чемпион- Федор или Оверим. Надеюсь, что они встретятся в полуфинале. Финал меня не интересует. Главное их очная встреча.

Lol gay...

Lol, are these the fonts used in the Predator movies???

ты сам гомик

It's weird how is belt is up for grabs. If Werdum beats him, does that make Werdum the SF HW champ? And then if Werdum loses in the 2nd round, what then? Seems like the belt could change hands several times in one tourney.

Knowing Strikeforces luck both Overeem and Fedor will loose there opening matches. I hope not doe.

That would be sooo funny.

No no that won't happen. If it did though, we would be looking at every HW in the world in a different light.

"doe" a deer a female deer?

He needs to get into the UFC if he really wants to fight the best talent in the coming years.



Fedor is 34 and Werdum is 33. Unless they dig up more than UFC rejects in the coming years he won't have any competition.

like lesnar carwin or mir are any younger..

What is it with people thinking that crushing a large amount of cans is better than beating real fighters with actual winning records?

Cung le would chop the hell out of anyone in the UFC?



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Ok, i like cung le but...nm i just hope that people actually put alot of money on these well informed picks.



And sure not every fighter starts off with tough competition(except lesnar, and he was hated for it by scholars of the toilets), but some people actually go up against better fighters as they improve and some guys hang around to buff their records.

How many of Cain's, Carwin's and JDS's fights have been against guys that weren't cans? 1-2 each. You post the dumbest sh^t.

Why are you talking about crushing cans.... that has nothing to do with MMA. Plus you don't get money back for crushed cans dumb dumb.

Stop crying. You won't see too many people in the UFC with records close to 50%. Baroni was about the closest and he just got cut again.

cain beat lesnar whos a joke, nog whos been hit too many times to even see the punches coming at this point, rothwell whos another joke, kongo who doesnt even belong in the cage with frank mir. JDS has abit better resume bc hes beat nelson and Cro Cop. and i guess struve. yvels an idiot and gonzaga doesnt have his head in the game. yeah theyre good but theres better competition out there

I think JDS has the most impressive resume in the UFC HW division with Werdum, Nelson, Gonzaga, Cro Cop and Struve all under his belt.

What do 50% records have to do with anything? BTW Randy Couture and BJ Penn, who I and many others consider to be among the best of all time, both have records that are around one third losses. Records aren't everything. I'm not saying records don't count for anything but they are not the whole story.

You really that simple Usually fighters with 50% records are horrible. Those fighters you mention are the exception because they take their hardest possible fights, not because they suck.



Good thing for you i can't say what i really think of you,better off if you just don't ever respond. Don't worry, if you're dumb enough to say in one thread that someone sucks because of their record and then come here to say it doesn't matter, i'm probably one of the only people who's going to notice.

Say whatever you like. I can see you right now. You have severe down syndrome and are typing away at your mom's computer. I won't take it personally. Where do I state that someone sucks solelt due to their record? I would really like to know. I may use that as an argument but it is notthe sole reason and I have never said that. Also, If YOU are dumb enough to think I said records don't matter then you may want to start reading SLOWER starting by rereading what I posted above.

You the same guy that was crying before right? I just think all the reatrds are the same because no matter how ridiculous something is you all seem to have the exact same opinion.



Yea, records are DEFINITELY used around here as a top reason why a fighter sucks, and either you agree with the people who say that or you're just not even man enough(even behind your moms own computer) to correct them.

Okay, King Stupid of Tardistan. You just argued that because I haven't made it my HOLY MISSION FROM GOD to hunt down those who you claim use records as the sole reason for arguing that a guy sucks, that I must agree with them. I would just like to point out that I also have not started a one man search of the caves along the Afghan/Pakistani boarder for Mr. Bin Laden. I am very sorry that you associate manhood with being an internet bad ass. That is sad. I cry for you.

Fedor didn't duck competition in Pride so I don't see why they would think he is now. Everyone he fights from here on out is pretty much lose lose for Fedor. What he has done in the past can't be held against him. That doesn't make any sense. Werdum beat him so he isn't invincible but anyone can see that Fedor is one hell of a fighter. I don't care if he is only fighting punching bags. You can see the guy is a monster.

mr.overrem they prove that he is a great fighter in the hevyweight division

i`d be surprised if Overeem didn`t win the tournament. Bur i`m also looking forward to see how Arlovski performs. It`s bee a while since he fought .

Arlovski is the biggest underachiever in the HW division.

Fedor wins this tourny!!!!

The only way Overeem or Fedor should be allowed in the UFC is if they go through the ultimate fighter, just like Kimbo.





/sarcasm

Reem and Fedor already tuned the UFC down. They both opted strikeforce over the UFC.

yeah it's ironic how it all comes back around now for Dana... he ****ed with fedor, barnett and werdum in a way that they won't join the UFC anytime soon, but he didn't consider that Overeem - a guy he now obviously wants bad right now - wouldn't join because he believes the sf-division is more stacked haha... kind of amusing isn't it

He said he turned UFC contract offer down because he wanted to be free to do other stuff. I don't know if he thought strikeforce was more stacked though he may have as it's only the last couple of years the UFC HW division has got interesting and started catching up with the rest of the divisions in terms of skill.

im probably pretty lame, but im really excited for barnett and rodgers

me too I'm eager to see Barnett against decent competition again

Not lame at all. Rogers gets badmouthed a lot on this site but he is a dangerous guy. He destroyed Arlovsky like no one else ever has. He also gave Fedor a pretty good fight, although I personally don't think Fedor was ever in real trouble. IMHO Brett Rogers is easily top 20 and Barnett is top 10. I don't see Rogers winning but I definitely think that it will be an interesting fight.

It's good to see more people on the Reem War Wagon. I said that step by step he would become the first undisputed MMA Heavy Weight champion.



The Reem has fought MMA since he was a young man and has hard earned MMA fighting experience and technique. He evolved in all areas of his game. He has competed in ADCC to challenge his ground submission game and submitted everyone who he fought. He has developed his striking skills to the point of winning the K1 GP (Let's see any other MMA fighter step up and do that). He has developed his size and power (without losing technique) to the point where he can toss a big powerful man like Brett Rogers around like a child... keeping in mind that Fedor had a lot more trouble to say the least and so did the Pit Bull.



Next Step... The Reem takes the Strike Force Heavy Weight Tourney and not only defends his SF belt but takes the number one spot and becomes an issue that the UFC will eventually have to deal with. Unlike Fedor, he has no management issues and once he cleans house outside the UFC my gut feelings is that he'll want to clean house inside. Dana once offered Fedor the opportunity to fight in Sambo in Russia (a form of MMA) and he can give a similar opportunity to The Reem fighting K1 in Japan.



All Aboard The Reem War Wagon!!!.... As it continues to wreck a path to MMA having its first truly undisputed Heavy Weight Champion of the World!!!

All well and good but I am pretty sure that Overeem's SF contract has a championship clause. That means that he can't leave unless he loses. What is more likely is one of two things; 1: Overeem loses the belt and decides to go to the UFC OR 2: once all the major rankings and the fans consider Overeem to be the #1 HW in the world, the UFC will feel the pressure to copromote a show or two. I think the first scenario is highly unlikely. Overeem likes to fight OFTEN. Even with a K-1 clause I don't think he would feel enough freedom to fight. As for copromotion, there are some things that could get in the way. Firstly I am not convinced that Overeem will win the tourni. Fedor, Werdum, Barnett, and Kharitinov are all serious threats and Arlovski could be if his head is straightened out. That would kill any #1 ranking. and the UFC would never feel the need to prove Overeem isn't A#1DONY. The other thing is Dana White. Even if the entire world thinks Overeem is the best he will resist as long as he can. Personally though, I think it is only a matter of time before the UFC has to copromote with SF in the HW division or risk ridicule. Already a lot of people consider the SF HW division to have the better fighters. After this tourni a lot more will think so. Eventually Zuffa will have to put up or shut up.

I think he will just smash everyone and be running out of competition and have no choice but to go to the UFC. But that can all be derailed with one bad split second decision.

It's getting redundant but I'll write it again; CHAMPIONSHIP CLAUSE. He has to lose the title to go to the UFC.

Not quite on that wagon yet.

^Agree. Why is there a wagon? A wagon built out of Brett & Todd isn't a very sturdy wagon.

Yeah. As I said, I am not convinced Overeem will win the tourni.

I do think overeem deserves teh hype, but he does have alot to prove still. Fedor is the best pick for the tourny for sure, he almost always finds a way to win.

I do think overeem deserves teh hype, but he does have alot to prove still. Fedor is the best pick for the tourny for sure, he almost always finds a way to win.

sakuraba submitted randleman, i think fedor could sub reem

Overeem gona be a punching bag for Fedor.Overeem is to slow for him and Fedor got better punching power the only way Reem can win is hit Fedor with knee

overeem has improved alot since Fighting full time at HW, First full time MMA fighter to win K-1 GP, I would like to see him also fight HW's like cain or JDS,

Ooohh, here come the 'weaks' I belieave Gegard has better striking than Overeem. I would say Mousasi would win a decision against Overeem. He's quicker, crisper and does have good power, and a good chin. Barnett,Fedor,Overeem those are my favs to win the tourny.

that may be true, but the "problem" with overeem is: he has that much power in his hands and knees that he only has to connect a clean one and the fight is over... and he is good at waiting patiently for it.



if you ask me the best or lets say smartest way to beat him is to wear him out ... that's why I'm so pumped for the werdum-overeem fight, I have a feeling that in one way or the other it will expose a weakness in overeems game, one that Fedor could exploit even more in the semis - if it all goes as planned =)

look at the spong fight ... tyrone spong has undoubtably WAY better striking than overeem, as has saki.... but they lost anyways

I think this is only in a 'tournament' format to package for Showtime and to line up fighters in advance of the bout.



Whatever. I am looking forward to all these fights. I honestly find it difficult to compare the UFC HWs to Strikeforce HWs. It will be good to see Overeem fight the best in Strikeforce in 2011. I am curious to see if the new Overeem is no longer the LHW who got smashed, and is now the juggernaut who recently crushed Todd Duffee.



As one of the posters above mentioned, Dana White has painted himself into a corner, and he must be gnashing his teeth. A successful season of Strikeforce HW fights when the UFC HW division is on hold due to injuries will win many new fans to Strikeforce, and cast real doubt about his claims that the UFC HW division is the 'major league'.

If this touny was a year ago i'd have said Overeem has a glass jaw, has yet to beat anyone at HW of any relevance and Fedor will smash him.



That was before Overeem won K1 and walked through Duffee in less than a round.



I still favour Fedor, but I won't be putting any money on it.

Well, time doesnt make jaws better. He's jaw is the same or worse. He's just became a better striker, plus in k-1 they have those big ol gloves that cover a fair bit. Smaller gloves get through a lot more. The thing i believe that has improved Overeem's game is patience, he has become a smarter fighter.

the guys a fake, he a walkin ass cheek with a needle hangin out of it. damn roid monky!!