being a cheater he will never be in my top 10 even if he Koed fedor
Totally agree with you.
I totally agree because we all know how clean Sherk, Sylvia, Duffee, Lesnar, Mir, Carwin, Wanderlei, Franklin, Overeem and just about every guy in MMA is. Those match day tests are totally unbeatable imho.
If we only ranked clean fighters the ranking would be totally different. Sherdog's ranking revised without blatant "cheaters":
3) Dos Santos
really rothwell top 10?
what silva are you ranking bigfoot?
i dont think nelson , rothwell or silva can beat barnet
hes not top 5 but hes defenly top 10
at least hes better than rothwell i dont understand how can you rank him top 10 if he just got beat by cain and arlovski , he hasent beat anyone worth mention and im not sure if Carwin has ever been mix with roids at all
It's not my list you UFC/WWE retards - it's Sherdog's latest rankings without Lesnar (2), Carwin (4), Mir (5), Overeem (7) and Barnett (other contenders)... aka obvious cheaters.
You UFC cronies would be better off with someone explaining everything MMA before you even think of writing anything that's even remotely related to MMA, cause you're so out of what's happening in the community it's effing embarrassing.
UFC fighters have been stripped for doping. People choose to fight in Japan or in Strikeforce where they won't be tested for a reason. You're spewing stupid nonsense.
Lesnar probably juiced while he was doing retard-wrestling, but that's cheating because it isn't a sport. He was always big though, as an infant he looked like he ate all the other babies in the crib or something.
HOW??? How is anyone out of touch but YOURSELF??? How can you call it "Sherdog's" list WITHOUT such and such ppl?? Then it is NOT their list once you have removed who you see fit dipshit..... Is this guy even serious?
Relax kid. Take a breath and read it again.
I read it again........ With that in mind, I refer you to my previous statement. Its still YOUR rankings. Its not "Sherdog's" minus anyone!! Once you start messing with things based on who YOU believe to be a cheater, then it becomes YOUR list. So where do u get off saying other people are "embarrassing?" Why because they are not over-bearing, judgmental, control freaks?
That's NOT cheating.
lol, what a idiotic statement, SF doesn't drug test? well guess what it isn't up to SF its up to local state atheletic commissions to drug test and by law SF fighters would have to comply. Are you really so blinded by UFC fur sack riding that you believe that SF is above US law, that some how SF gets around SAC testing but UFC doesn't?
you are spewing stupid nonsense
all lesnar doing roids for the years he was a prowrasler signals to me is that he has had alot of practice at cycling it out of his system for when he needs to pee clean. but personally i don't care much if he does or doesn't use them, roids don't improve your skills if anything they might hinder them; i would imagine its hard to look,.listen,and learn when your all roided raged up. and lesnar is still very green.
He went from skinny to Belgian Blue in three years in his juniors. Even his chin grew substantially...
But never mind.
Skipped most of the childish rant.
Lashley was not tested. Of course brainwashed children who think it's intelligent to rant nonsense about the UFC have no problem with Strikeforce fighters not being tested.
hes obviously not still doing roids or there would be no way he could make wieght he would be way too big but SF definatly does test that very ignorant of that guy to say. i agree with u that roid will hinder because if u get to muscular u will loose a ton of flexibility but other than that they only make u more focused and make u work harder towards ur goals
how do you know no one on your list hasnt cheated while you are so sure the others have do you have some inside info or are you just guessing and trying to play it off as facts
Man I never come right out and say this kind of stuff on here, but you are ****ING RETARDED......
My last comment the "Effin retard" comment was aimed at "FedorNuts" I have no idea why it got pushed down so far.....
Probably because you're a effing retard?
Budumbump!! Good one there Mr. Chuckles.
who made you the expert on who's on roids and who's clean???
you can't base it on appeaance alone, look at barnett himself, he hardly looks like a typical roid user. All of you "top 10" could be taking roids too. I'mnot sayin they are or they aren't but you sure as **** don't know either unless you are a close personal friend to all of them!
I know the ones I've excluded have either put on massive weight in a short period of time, acts like roided beasts, or both.
But you're right - I can't be sure of the others and I should have used a few quotation marks. Thought I did, but oh well... maybe they got lost in the context...
That's about the dumbest list i've EVER seen, but thanx for the laugh.
lol Arlovski is still top 10....rothwell? What happened to tim sylvia? hahaha
I wouldn't him in the top ten regardless of roids, he hasnt beaten enough top guys recently.
Too many new guys now... I am not sayin is not good. He would kick my ass easily that's for sure.
But they are too many new faces now in UFC and Strikeforce (Cain, Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Antos, Rogers, Big Country, Big Foot)
plus the old ones still very good tho (Fedor, Mir, Nogueira, Overeem)
He is top 20 IN THE WORLD. That aint bad...
I almost agree with you, but I put him above Big Foot and Rogers so he lands just inside my top 10.
6. Dos Santos
here it gets tricky I could actually put him at number 8 but for 8,9 and 10 its a very close thing between Werdun, Big Nog and Barnett.
For me Rogers dropped out of the top 10 after the manhandeling Overeem gave him, Overeem looked like a monster in the cage but also Rogers looked scared, he loses a lot of points for that. Both Big Country and Big Foot need to beat some actual top guys in order to make my top 10.
That's actually a really nice list. I think I would just switch Overeem and Carwin because Overeem hasn't really beaten that many impressive opponents at heavy-weight and Carwins wins over Gonzaga and Mir were impressive. I have to neglect Barnett for now because of history and yea i would put werdum and big nog in the same company. Big foot and Nelson have HUGE potential aswell I can't wait to see Nelson vs Gonzaga.
I completely agree with that list, I'd just switch Cain and Overeem around.
Good job! it's nice to see some one on this site who knows their shit.
I don't agree about Rogers (loosing to top 3 should not kick you out of the top ten) but I think you are right about the ranking
Barnett is very dangerous. One of his last action was fatal when he Kod Affliction.
I woul say he is just top ten. Here is my top ten list:
todd duffee (although not really proven yet)/bobby lashley
And there are probably a few LHWs that could beat some of these guys, like shogun and jon jones.
Just my opinion, but i dont think the list is too far off.
Who else would you put up there really? brett rogers? roy nelson? kongo? gabe gonzaga? Surely barnett is better than those guys, steroids or not, and most of us would put overeem up there, and most of us suspect the same thing about him...
I will just assume that for some reason Cain just slipped your mind? Otherwise I would like to see you defend putting Big Nog who just got knocked out by Cain in your top 10 :P
yeah, sorry, he slipped my mind. hes def up there.
Wait, what about
Superstar Billy Graham....
Oops, my bad...wrong message board.
Ever beat randy couture...ON ROIDSS????!?!
No repect for steroid users bann him from MMA.Wath if he wosn't checkt befor Fedor fight and he won all haters wuld say yes he beat Fedor.I ewen don't wana watch his fights
Barnett is another fighter who hasnt changed one bit.
Watch a fight of his 8 years ago and watch a fight of his 3 years ago and its the same.
you still suck even if you do roids
this guy sucks in my book
Unfortunately, Josh has made himself irrelevant.
Josh had a lot of talent. Was the youngest fighter to hold the UFC Heavyweight belt and maybe the youngest to hold a ufc belt period! But he threw that all away when he took the roids.
Anyways, who knows. Maybe he will work his way back one day.
keep barnett in japan, and out of the top 10
let him fight bob sapp and hong man choi, because all he is, is a freak show. after all the postive roid tests, he doesnt deserve to even fight in top lvl fights
You know seriously, some of you retards (I KNOW that they know who they are) pretend to know something about MMA. You guys just magically know who is on steroids right? Stop trying to find excuses and reasons to try to push your favorite fighters up the list. You know NOTHING about their drug testing so where do you get off insinuating they cheat the tests?
because barnett has failed for steroids 3 seperate occasions, retard
Thanks for showing ur ignorance..... Read the thread first u ****in moron. I am not talking about Barnett!
Durrrr Barnett has failed durrrr 3 times......Really captain obvious?
Stick, you bring a lot of hatred into these posts and I'm not trying to get funny votes but seriously you need to bust out into some yoga or meditation or something because you are ALWAYS calling people retards and generally being unwholesome.
Doesn't matter. Fedor will always be numero uno!