Yes, fighters like Coleman and Overeem will go there so they can juice. Fighters will go there so they can look impressive against the largely weak Asian competition.
of course they are awesome fighters, i might be wrong but what i think is that they are small so they fight in their natural weight all the time not like here that big guys fight smaller guys
That what passes for an argument on your short-bus Krogan? If you don't think juicing is SOP in Japan, then you're just dumb. If you think that there are no contender Asian fighters, simply because they aren't interested in the sport, then you're double-dumb.
This is where you stupidly point to the 1-2 exceptions and drool on yourself while pretending like you make a point.
Most Asian country don't have the opportunity (there no training facility) or not interested in mma because in most Asian country people worried more about basic need like putting food on the table. Japan is the main Asian country that does MMA, Most japanese are small in height, bone density structure. i see most japanese fighters could drop average 15-20 pounds easily to fight at a smaller weigth Div which is more their size. On top of that they are not very Athletic, they need to mixed up their training, here in America you have wrestling, football player etc.
I think the only reason Japanese fighters lose is because they aren't physically strong, a lot of Japanese fighters get manhandled in America...so if they start lifting more weight they could keep up wit the fighters in America
that is because they don't have the weight cutting tradition that they have in America, and while the American fighters have caught up in technique to the Japanese they have not caught up to the American's in the weight management department. It's harder for the Japanese to change however since their martial arts are rooted in thousands of years of tradition.
MMA in Japan will only grow if it can get get more exposure in more other countries like the UK. Dream wasn't shown in the UK and I think if it was as well as other countries its not currently shown then they will be able to grow and show a much bigger presents.
They must have a niche though. Like any company in the rest of the world, There ring is something you only normally see on Pride re-runs (also not shown in the UK)
If their exposure becomes bigger the fighters will come and their own fighters will improve and the whole game will improve.
Asia is the home of traditional MMA like karate, muay thai, tae kwon doe etc...now that MMA is growing all over the world i can see asia bringing back some of the best MMArtists in the future by using their traditional MMA.
By the way I see akiyama beating wanderlei, i think wanderleis striking is crazy he is so open and a traditional MMArtist for example Machida with his karate would kill wanderlei i think akiyama has a great chance to prove a point in the UFC also the asian lad that fought amir saddollah (cant remember his name) at UFC 114 his Judo was of the highest calibre if he gets his stand up right he will be challenging for titles soon he looked really good.
I cant see MMA in Japan dying out it may have this blip but in the future I bet you their will be one or two outstanding japenese fighters
It seems like you are really asking if the Japanese have a future in MMA. It seems like a bit of a racist question. I will extend you the benefit of doubt and consider it unintentional but you should watch that. If there are no top level Japanese fighters right now, there will be. At one point there were very few Black MMA fighters but now there are plenty at all levels of competition. It will ebb and flow for all demographics.
I rarely bring up race but I will call some one out on it if they seem to be. Read the above post. He asks if Japanese MMA has a future but then goes on to attempt to demonstrate a lack of successful Japanese fighters. Also, go f\/(k yourself.
If we are talking about fighters and not promotions, then I think there will always be up and coming Japanese fighters, whether it is in the UFC or another organization. And last time I checked, Yushin Okami was still Japanese and he is not even mentioned here. He has only 2 losses in the UFC. As far as Japanese promotions go time will tell. Dream is a good one to watch to see if the Japanese promotions are going anywhere.
I think that MMA in Japan is excellent for the sport. It is a place for people to start and get experience for the big fight companies. anything the exposes MMA to the world is good for the sport , regardless of the size of company they ALL contribute.
future?? u guys dont realize how popular mma is in japan and other asian countries.. mma basicly started in japan, there are houndreds of different promotions that u even dont know and they are prospering pretty well coz freaking big amounts of ppl watching it
This must be the dumbest poll I've seen on this site so far, of course it has a future the only question is what that future will entail.
Personally I think we will see more Japanese fighters train in America and these recent loses will in the long run be good for Japanese MMA as it will hopefully act as an eye opener to how important a tool weight management is.
The fights mentioned in the article are fact but you cannot judge those. Sakuraba is out of his prime while Aoki and Sakurai both fought top dogs. Japan does have a huge pool of talent though and there are a lot of japanese fighters that could do some damage in the UFC.
FYI, Japan does not equal the entire Asia. people put the entire group with Japan. Also in last ufc i believe that the Korean fighter that beat amir is still undefeated.
I agree to a degree that tradition in Japan coould actually hinder the transition into full mma as mma requires a series of disciplines and Japanese usually specialise in one. This is only an opinion before ne1 feels the need to flame.
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Yes, fighters like Coleman and Overeem will go there so they can juice. Fighters will go there so they can look impressive against the largely weak Asian competition.
Japanese are very well rounded and disiplined fighters.
Hey just look at the Samurai.
of course they are awesome fighters, i might be wrong but what i think is that they are small so they fight in their natural weight all the time not like here that big guys fight smaller guys
yeah that is the truth sickb, of course ston3pony has the dumbest comment as usual.
That what passes for an argument on your short-bus Krogan? If you don't think juicing is SOP in Japan, then you're just dumb. If you think that there are no contender Asian fighters, simply because they aren't interested in the sport, then you're double-dumb.
This is where you stupidly point to the 1-2 exceptions and drool on yourself while pretending like you make a point.
Most Asian country don't have the opportunity (there no training facility) or not interested in mma because in most Asian country people worried more about basic need like putting food on the table. Japan is the main Asian country that does MMA, Most japanese are small in height, bone density structure. i see most japanese fighters could drop average 15-20 pounds easily to fight at a smaller weigth Div which is more their size. On top of that they are not very Athletic, they need to mixed up their training, here in America you have wrestling, football player etc.
He' look, another douche accusing people of roiding without any proof. Or are you actually Kosheck?
i would like to see more japanese fighters in the ufc. or at least fighting in america
I think the only reason Japanese fighters lose is because they aren't physically strong, a lot of Japanese fighters get manhandled in America...so if they start lifting more weight they could keep up wit the fighters in America
that is because they don't have the weight cutting tradition that they have in America, and while the American fighters have caught up in technique to the Japanese they have not caught up to the American's in the weight management department. It's harder for the Japanese to change however since their martial arts are rooted in thousands of years of tradition.
MMA in Japan will only grow if it can get get more exposure in more other countries like the UK. Dream wasn't shown in the UK and I think if it was as well as other countries its not currently shown then they will be able to grow and show a much bigger presents.
They must have a niche though. Like any company in the rest of the world, There ring is something you only normally see on Pride re-runs (also not shown in the UK)
If their exposure becomes bigger the fighters will come and their own fighters will improve and the whole game will improve.
Asia is the home of traditional MMA like karate, muay thai, tae kwon doe etc...now that MMA is growing all over the world i can see asia bringing back some of the best MMArtists in the future by using their traditional MMA.
By the way I see akiyama beating wanderlei, i think wanderleis striking is crazy he is so open and a traditional MMArtist for example Machida with his karate would kill wanderlei i think akiyama has a great chance to prove a point in the UFC also the asian lad that fought amir saddollah (cant remember his name) at UFC 114 his Judo was of the highest calibre if he gets his stand up right he will be challenging for titles soon he looked really good.
I cant see MMA in Japan dying out it may have this blip but in the future I bet you their will be one or two outstanding japenese fighters
It seems like you are really asking if the Japanese have a future in MMA. It seems like a bit of a racist question. I will extend you the benefit of doubt and consider it unintentional but you should watch that. If there are no top level Japanese fighters right now, there will be. At one point there were very few Black MMA fighters but now there are plenty at all levels of competition. It will ebb and flow for all demographics.
why do you have to turn every thread into a question of racism??
I rarely bring up race but I will call some one out on it if they seem to be. Read the above post. He asks if Japanese MMA has a future but then goes on to attempt to demonstrate a lack of successful Japanese fighters. Also, go f\/(k yourself.
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If we are talking about fighters and not promotions, then I think there will always be up and coming Japanese fighters, whether it is in the UFC or another organization. And last time I checked, Yushin Okami was still Japanese and he is not even mentioned here. He has only 2 losses in the UFC. As far as Japanese promotions go time will tell. Dream is a good one to watch to see if the Japanese promotions are going anywhere.
I think that MMA in Japan is excellent for the sport. It is a place for people to start and get experience for the big fight companies. anything the exposes MMA to the world is good for the sport , regardless of the size of company they ALL contribute.
future?? u guys dont realize how popular mma is in japan and other asian countries.. mma basicly started in japan, there are houndreds of different promotions that u even dont know and they are prospering pretty well coz freaking big amounts of ppl watching it
They will stay around, arent going anywhere.
But when their top fighters get smashed, it doesnt help their standings in MMA to the rest of the world.
I dont think we'll see Aoki being a bigmouth anymore.
Heck just think if BJ was to get a hold of that terd.
Ner England all the way!
This must be the dumbest poll I've seen on this site so far, of course it has a future the only question is what that future will entail.
Personally I think we will see more Japanese fighters train in America and these recent loses will in the long run be good for Japanese MMA as it will hopefully act as an eye opener to how important a tool weight management is.
I think maybe if Aoki will shout at Dana and the UFC on live television how Japan has the best fighters (like he did before)
Maybe everyone will forget how bad they really suck now days.
lmao, posted that just to get a rise from Bam, it worked amazingly well. Thanks Bam
Kenny Beat down Gomi too!!!
The fights mentioned in the article are fact but you cannot judge those. Sakuraba is out of his prime while Aoki and Sakurai both fought top dogs. Japan does have a huge pool of talent though and there are a lot of japanese fighters that could do some damage in the UFC.
FYI, Japan does not equal the entire Asia. people put the entire group with Japan. Also in last ufc i believe that the Korean fighter that beat amir is still undefeated.
hmm... i thought it was because japanese dont have that rage drive in them to win.. lol i donno...
I agree to a degree that tradition in Japan coould actually hinder the transition into full mma as mma requires a series of disciplines and Japanese usually specialise in one. This is only an opinion before ne1 feels the need to flame.